michael jackson oprah interview transcript

He was greeted by a crush of reporters and fans. LEMON: Author and self-proclaimed psychic Uri Geller was a friend of Jackson's. And I said, Mr. Gordy, you just have to see these kids. "All I did was enhance the dance.". You could not on your own going bearing in mind book buildup or library or . LEMON: For pop music superstar Usher, it's the loss of a pioneer. I tried and tried and tried to get the message across to people that sexual abuse is not just abuseit is also sexual seduction." As Senior Director of Editorial & Strategy, I oversee all of Oprah Daily's digital content, from editorial to video to social media. And we were so excited. Time said, Part soap opera, part show, the Michael Jackson interview was vivid, reckless and emotionally naked. Life opined that Oprah delivered as promised and accomplished something nearly impossible: bringing Peter Pan down from the clouds.. "Forgiveness is not a line that you crossit's a road that you take.". Michael Jackson, in 1993 in a hospital for sick children. LEMON: Fan clubs, trading cards, Michael Jackson dolls. He was like, "Someone created the drum, right? LEMON: The king of pop. Brooke. Then he added, Ive always been in love with Diana Ross. Oprah asked if he would propose to Elizabeth Taylor. DON LEMON, CNN ANCHOR (voice-over): From child prodigy to cultural icon. That was a very odd appearance, that he felt it necessary to say, this is good-bye. Michael, a fiercely private entertainer, had refused to give an interview for 14 years. At the beginning, Oprah asked both men if they were prepared to "get it" for speaking out about Jackson's alleged crimes. It was just incredible. And is aid to him, take that stupid thing off! And interestingly, he'd say to me every time, no, I wouldn't do that. I knew it wouldn't look right. He suffered from bad acne and was self- conscious of his appearance. MONROE: The trial hurt him to the core. LEMON: That documentary triggered bombshell news that thrust the fated pop star back into the spotlight. Just last year, a study by the Census Bureau and Stanford University found that no matter what their parents income level, Black men are less successful than white men on average. An Objective View of Michael Jackson Interview Transcripts Michael Jackson, Lisa Marie Presley interview with Diane Sawyer Transcript 22nd January 1995 Diane Sawyer: And with me of course, Michael Jackson and Lisa Marie Presley. BRIAN OXMAN, ATTORNEY: I've talked to this family about it. Meantime, members of Iran's government-linked militia are reportedly raiding homes and beating suspected protesters, who are believed to be taking part in nightly anti-government chants from Tehran roofs. Even from the beginning, when they're nervously holding hands at MTV and he says, "Nobody thought this would last," and then he goes to kiss her. SMOKEY ROBINSON, SINGER: Oh, in tribute to him -- how I feel about him, I would probably sing "Never Can Say Good-Bye." TOURE: When he dangled the baby, it's just here's Michael again being the class clown who doesn't even realize that he's the class clown. And no one wanted it more than Michael. A lot of people from the Mideast love Michael Jackson. THIS IS A RUSH TRANSCRIPT. But first an update on the Michael Jackson death investigation. RODNEY JENKINS, MUSIC PRODUCER: Wow, 50 dates; 50 dates at 50 years old? Taking a cue from "Bad's" title, he became a crotch-grabbing tough guy, a far cry from his gentle, offstage personae. My father made me into a performance machine. Robson and his mother moved from Australia to work with Jackson, and as a child, he starred in music videos like "Black or White" and "Jam," gigs that he says led to spending more and more time with Jackson, including sleepovers at Jackson's Neverland ranch. I have loved Michael Jackson the artist for several decades. MICHAEL JACKSON: I would do my schooling for three hours with the tutor, and right after that I'd go to the recording studio and record. Be the first one to, Advanced embedding details, examples, and help, Terms of Service (last updated 12/31/2014). Watching the two interviews back to back reveals an undeniable and astonishing fact: the biggest pop star the world had ever seen had become a completely different person in the intervening 14 years. Just nine months after the show aired, the 13-year-old cancer patient featured in the documentary accused Jackson of sexual abuse. Have you ever been in love? Oprah pressed on. You can count them on two fingers. It doesnt take a surgeon to know that Michael was lying; he maintained that falsehood in 2003, in his interview with Martin Bashir, when he responded sardonically to the same question: Ive had two operationsthat I can remember., But Oprah pressed the point, Youve had a nose job, thats obvious. Yes, like a lot of people I know, Michael responded But Ive never had my cheeks, eyes or lips done. Do you like the way you look now? Oprah probed further. They are mourning in Gary, Indiana, too, Michael's hometown. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Love you, Mike! He said, no one wants to be mortal; we all want to be immortal. And we started -- this is where we started. "Anybody who knew Michael Jackson will tell you that when you are up close to himhe had absolutely no pigmentation in his skinyou are looking at his veins when you look at his hand. Oprah interviews Michael Jackson, broadcast live around the world from his home at the Neverland Ranch. Would you trade it in for a normal childhood with the celebrity? Download the Watch OWN app and access OWN anytime, anywhere. Jackson had never responded to anything, except through his songs. Have you ever had suicidal tendencies? Whats a 36-year-old man doing sleeping with a 12-year-old boy? Have you ever had sexual intercourse with a child? The rest of the story is familiar: Bashirs 2003 interview, in which Jackson again claimed to share his bed with children, prompted an investigation and then a trial for the sexual abuse of a young boy who appeared with him on the show (Jackson was found not guilty). LEMON: Michael had another money-making trick up his sleeve. It's mysterious. ), I shared the same mindset of many of the folks Oprah was talking about. But his face was expressionless. This is a UK airing of the famous interview of Michael Jackson by Oprah Winfrey in 1993. She explained: "Here's the reason why I'm here. "I love my father, but I don't know him. And so Michael and his managers fought them and said Quincy's doing the record. He was sobbing. "He kept getting whiter and whiter and whiter, and nobody understood why," Oprah says. He said he urged the singer to keep children out of his bedroom. ", Michael's relationship with his father, Joe Jackson, has made plenty of headlines throughout the years. I was always crying from loneliness. With that, live in front of 62 million viewers, Jackson established the first great myth that would surround him from that moment on (and which his most diehard fans would use to justify his most outlandish behaviors): the kid whose childhood was stolen from him. Simply titled "Bad." He's not breathing and we need -- we're trying to pump him but he's not -- UNIDENTIFIED MALE: OK, OK. How old is he? And Michael Jackson was ready to spread his wings. Michael Jackson Talks . I mean, everybody wants immortality. I would see kids on the monkey bars and I would cry because I couldn't have a childhood. The hurt was so ingrained in each of these men, in fact, that neither of them were willingor ableto accept what had happened to them until they had sons of their own. "The moonwalk came from these beautiful black kids who live in the ghettos in the inner cities, who are brilliant. Then in 1996, Jackson sent shock waves around the world when it was announced he had married Debbie Rowe, his dermatologist nurse. (COMMERCIAL BREAK) LEMON: In November 1982, 24-year-old Michael Jackson released "Thriller." Mejore su francs con solo 15 minutos al da. Michael Jackson was being interviewed by Oprah Winfrey in 1993 when he stunned the interviewer by showcasing his incredible beatboxing skills as he sang acapella. It just made me very, very, very sad. The Michael Jackson Interview: Oprah Reflects On February 10, 1993, Oprah sat down with Michael Jackson for what would be the most-watched interview in television history. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You have a doctor there? Every day, Michael Jackson showed up in one of his Captain Crunch outfits. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Michael Jackson doesn't just come along once in a century or a lifetime. Naturally, an arena for 62 million viewers when Oprah Winfrey in 1993 interviewed Michael Jackson in today's multi-fractured media landscape simply no longer exists. LEMON: It was March 10, 2005, the second day of testimony by Jackson's teenaged accuser. The interview shattered records with an audience of 90 million. If you look closely, in the sequence where they walk together to the amusement park all the rides are moving, but theyre completely empty, he says. In fact, you know, there were nights where you looked up there and it was like he was timeless, ageless. Theres one other person besides Michael: portraits of Michael Jackson, painted by Ralph Wolfe Cowan on a gigantic canvas showing him as a knight in armor accompanied by his monkey Bubbles, a parrot and a cherub. to Oprah had a 39.3 rating and a 56 share of the viewing audience, meaning 36.6 . He defended himself somewhat crazily, but it did make some sense: What about the millions of people who put themselves in the sun to make their skin darker, to become someone else? GORDY: They were sensations. LEMON: Can you sing it a bit please? His mistake is that he took it way too far, so that he stopped being a curiosity, and he started being a freak. 90 million people tuned in for the sit-down chat at the King of Pop's Neverland Valley Ranch in Los Olivos, California. Yes. With Brooke Shields? Yes. They come up with these dances," Michael said. And I called Mr. Gordy and I said, I've just seen the most fantastic act. The unprecedented live event, which took place before any allegations were made about sexual abuse, drew a worldwide audience of 90 million people. LEMON: Millions in mourning. Later, he added: "Michael told me it was love, that God brought us together. I was like, "What do you mean?" It was just very difficult to imagine this is a guy who's ready to come back and do an amazing series of 50 concerts, and then more across the world, which was the plan. That's a lot of dates. me with them and I will put them on here. Cinco sedes disponibles, Licenciatura Ejecutiva en Derecho. To me, she's perfection. "You can count them on two fingers," he said. Due to a planned power outage on Friday, 1/14, between 8am-1pm PST, some services may be impacted. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: My brother, the legendary king of pop, Michael Jackson, passed away on Thursday, June 25th, 2009 at 2:26 p.m. It was a tense atmosphere, given that MJ didn't take part in an interview for 14 years. Success at such a cost left Jackson with conflicted feelings for his father. I said that Michael is over-medicating and that I did not want to see this kind of a case develop. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The people of the state of California, plaintiff versus Michael Joe Jackson, defendant, not guilty of a lewd act upon a minor child. J. RANDY TARABORELLI, BIOGRAPHER: From the time that most kids were building tree houses, Michael Jackson was building an image. I had go-to lines about being able to separate the art from the man; about how Jackson was certainly an oddball with an affinity for children because of his own troubled upbringing, but that didn't make him a criminal; about how there was never any real proof that he had abused children. Presley filed for divorce in 1996. BRIAN MONROE, "EBONY MAGAZINE": I was really struck by the razor stubble, all along his face. This is the first time I really had an opportunity to be completely alone with him. BERRY GORDY, FOUNDER OF MOTOWN: He was exceptional, artistic, and original. I was never able to enjoy the simplest things that a child takes for granted in his life. The interview aired on February 10, 1993, and it coincided with a crucial moment in Jacksons life. And I was -- and I kept saying, I just hope he gets a physical trainer, someone to really work him out, to make sure he's healthy and prepared. And in 1999, they divorced. Less than a year later, Jackson made headlines again when he married Lisa Marie Presley, the 26-year-old daughter of Elvis. The Jackson 5 exploded on the charts. Never had a celebrity provoked so much fascination or so many utterly bizarre headlines. And I remember going to the recording studio, and there was park across the street. LEMON: By 1985, the pop star began looking different. Jackson, he said, once asked him for a prescription. You think about what the it factor is, that's what he had. The circus surrounding the trial seemed more than Jackson could bear. He is later joined by his sister and guest star, LaToya Jackson (1983/1984): . On February 10, 1993, Oprah sat down with Michael Jackson for what would be the most-watched interview in television history. Obtendr un diploma con estadsticas de nivel, progresin y participacin. Tern claims the visual aspect very subtly [drew] Michael Jacksons personality, that outdated mogul thing. And for us to all pay attention to this one being on this planet as much as we did, the light was truly shining bright. You're looking at a person who is almost translucent.". It was an exclusive talk with Michael Jackson who had refused to be interviewed for 14 years. And Michael was happy to play along with that, because he understood at a very early age that image-making and public relations was very important. Special effects? LEMON: -- so is his death. Every time a shot opens, we see behind him a huge, lonely room filled with expensive works of art. Im going to ask you something and its embarrassing for me, but Im going to ask it anyway. Oprah, who referenced her own experiences with sexual abuse as a child during the interview, added that when you're as young as Robson and Safechuck were when they allege that Jackson abused them7 and 10you "don't have the language to explain what is happening to you." She explained: "Thriller" broke records, with seven top ten singles. Oprahs interview succeeded in reducing Jacksons image from lunatic to simply eccentric, wrote The Washington Post shortly thereafter. LEMON: Jackson's follow-up to "Thriller" hit stores in 1987. Since the mid-1980s, people had speculated that Jackson wanted to become white, that he wanted to become a woman, that he had bought the Elephant Mans remains, that he slept in an oxygen chamber, that he had married Elizabeth Taylor, that he suffered from anorexia, that his best friend was a monkey, that the monkey was telepathic, that Michael was a homosexual and that he was a virgin. It's a very complicated cultural dynamic with roots in slavery and beyond that would take me an entire separate article to unpack. A child's understanding of "abuse". And then Oprah began her interview by saying: "This moment transcends Michael Jackson. It could not be stopped. He made me rehearse too much. Premiered in Feburary 10th 1993. Oprah also mentioned the criticisms she had been receiving on social media, with commenters asking why she would do this interview when Jackson can't defend himselfand also accusing her of "trying to bring the Black man down.". You look like you're insane. One of the first venues, the auditorium of Roosevelt High. (COMMERCIAL BREAK) LEMON: Hello, I'm Don Lemon, live from Los Angeles. Id like to, Michael replied, apparently forgetting that he just implied that he was in a romantic relationship with Brooke Shields. BOTEACH: I said, look on the flip side of that. And the Jacksons began their rocket rise to stardom. And Michael was God to me.". LEMON: Rabbi Schmuley Boteach was a friend and spiritual visor to Michael Jackson. You want what you create to live, be it a sculpture, a painting, music, a composition, like Michelangelo. According to Kitty Kelleys biography Oprah, the host lied when she claimed at the beginning of the interview that nothing had been prearranged. ETHAN SMITH, "WALL STREET JOURNAL": After the trial, he had spent a lot of money on lawyers, and had very little coming in. And he just didn't look like anyone else you'd ever met. And, generally, he expressed to me that he was made to feel that he was ugly, that he was not pretty. People were talking about his plastic surgery. GORDY: When she told me about another kids' group I said, wait a minute, I got all these other stars. Oprah, who referenced her own experiences with sexual abuse as a child during the interview, added that when you're as young as Robson and Safechuck were when they allege that Jackson abused them7 and 10you "don't have the language to explain what is happening to you." MICHAEL JACKSON: I would do my schooling for three hours with the tutor, and right after that I'd go to the. In 1987, his interest in the elephant man's bones, Bubbles the chimp, Liz Taylor, and an array of strange disguises set tongues wagging. When I saw that spectacle, I realized that my concerns about his frailty, about his physical issues, and emotional instability, were even more well-founded. For more stories from OprahMag.com, sign up for our newsletter. LEMON: Saying "Beat It" to the competition, for 37 weeks the album sat at number one and is, to this day, the top-selling album in the world. Are you a virgin? Michael sighed, laughed and replied, How could you ask me that question? Ultimately, he sidestepped a direct answer with an odd response. That right there, that will never be replaced. LEMON: But Brockman says the superstar was terrified. We're going to sleep. I tuck them in. LEMON: On the last night of his life, Michael Jackson was rehearsing for his London show, due to open in just three weeks. And then there are all the gatherings, from weddings to birthdays, where the only songs that would get everyone in my mixed, multicultural family on the dance floor to attempt their best moonwalks were "Billie Jean" and "Thriller.". On February 10, 1993, Oprah sat down with Michael Jackson for what would be the most-watched interview in television history. But their victory tour reviews were mixed. It was in the same league as David Frosts interview with Richard Nixon in 1977, Barbara Walters interview with Monica Lewinsky in 1999 and, outside the United States, Martin Bashirs interview with Princess Diana in 1995. LEMON: An audition seen in this video from a documentary produced by Michael Jackson. And Michael just stared at me. LEMON: A life and legend cut short. He sat there on a daily basis, watching accusations hurled at him, suggesting that he was an insensitive monster. JACKSON: Because he -- he saw me -- he wanted me to -- I guess, maybe, I don't know if I was his golden child or whatever it was. (I should note that for the record, Leaving Neverland was in production long before Surviving R. Kelly aired.). JACKSON: Yes. Like what are we doing? There wouldn't even be the MTV that is now without Michael Jackson's influence. JERMAINE JACKSON, MICHAEL JACKSON'S BROTHER: You know, you have to say to yourself, who hasn't? Winfrey . Some say the Jackson's turned to music the day their television set broke down, but from the day they started performing, they were destined for stardom. There are no reviews yet. (And who could ever forget that interview Jackson did with Martin Bashir in 2003 where he whispered "I am Peter Pan"? WINFREY: And why would he beat you? With Michael Jackson, Oprah Winfrey, Elizabeth Taylor. The craze reached a fever pitch in 1984 when a Pepsi commercial gone awry sparked even more frenzy. And we started going, we started to get going. The Moonwalker: Transcripts from Interviews Transcripts Here are transcipts from many of Michaels interviews. The interview [ edit] LEMON: Jackson would become more reclusive, retreating into his Neverland Ranch. A year later, the couple had a baby daughter, Paris Michael Katherine. Kelly's recent indictment for 10 counts of aggravated criminal sexual abuse. We're finally hearing from the Jackson family. Did he ever hit you? Yes. Why? He was very strict; just his look alone terrified me. And we were sitting very close and he actually collapsed on my shoulder. After the second half airs on Monday, March 4, Oprah Winfrey Presents: After Neverland" will air simultaneously on HBO and OWN: Oprah Winfrey Network on at 10:00 PM EST. Sometimes he would call me at 3:00 in the morning crying, terrified about what would happen to his children. He filled the property with an amusement park, a private zoo, and dubbed the oasis Neverland. His steelworker father, Joe, turned five of his boys into a band with five-year-old Michael out front. Sometimes he would come to see me, and I would throw up. As an adult too? Yes., Then Oprah started to fire away. HIATT: At the same time he was announcing these shows, he also made sure to say these are the final shows. WINFREY: Would he -- did he ever beat you? In 2005, Michael Jackson would go to trial and face perhaps the toughest six months of his life. Stay up to date with the latest trends that matter to you most. Despite the success of "We are the World" in the mid '80s, seemingly soft-spoken Michael was retreating into a world all his own. At first that's a starling thing. BROCKMAN: We were alone in a room. And then he would dance, you know. 21 das de prueba gratuita de nuestro curso de francs online, Mejore su ingls con EL PAS con 15 minutos al da, Disfrute de nuestras lecciones personalizadas, breves y divertidas, Mejore su italiano con EL PAS con 15 minutos al da, Las mejores oportunidades hablan alemn. I put little like music on into a little story time, I read a book. . So we started listening to tracks, like De, de, de, de, de, de. Because of that you became a great performer, and maybe even because you were not given enough love as a child, you wanted the world's love. Then Oprah asked the question even she says was embarrassing: "Are you a virgin? LEMON: Motown gave the group a record deal. Michael Jacksons next two major interviews (with Diane Sawyer in 1995 and with Martin Bashir in 2003) would have even more disturbing questions. This man was a universal pop icon. Around 62 million viewers in the United States and 90 million worldwide watched the interview live, although some estimates, such as the one offered by Winfreys biographer, Kitty Kelley, claim it was higher at 100 million. OPRAH IS A REGISTERED TRADEMARK OF HARPO, INC. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED 2023 HARPO PRODUCTIONS, INC. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Then moved back. With all of the pieces and details put together chronologically across four hours, Leaving Neverland brings to life a man who groomed his victims psychologically into simultaneously loving him and fearing him so steadfastly that they never accepted that they were abused themselvesmuch less wanted to tell anyone about it. He's unconscious? He's not the person to do this. LEMON: And with Neverland came the children. In 1993, Ms. Winfrey's prime-time interview of Michael Jackson at his Neverland Ranch, . There wouldn't be BET. These are victims whose lives were forever ruined by a troubled, sick person who had the access and power to manipulate them for decades, even after his deathbecause he was larger than life. Plastic surgery was another much-talked about issue surrounding Michael Jackson in the early 1990s. In 1993, Oprah Winfrey made history by conducting the most-watched interview in television history. As Jackson's marriage began to crumble, so did his career. RABBI SCHMULEY BOTEACH: On the one hand, he would always complain. I'd like to take a shot at producing your record. He also sang and danced. And to be completely honest, I also had a little bit of that "let's not bring the Black man down" in my own mentality. This is a moment in time that allows us to see this societal corruption that's like a scourge on humanity. Not only was I questioning why our culture would want to bring down a man who isn't alive to protect himself, but I, too, was suspicious that these accusers were coming out now, after publicly defending Jackson when he was alive. She arranges the interviews in advance, and they are very prefabricated, but then she has the [gift] of naturalness, of making herself seem like one more member of the audience, even though she is not. Long-awaited, the buzz was big. (COMMERCIAL BREAK) (BEGIN VIDEOTAPE) (CROSS TALK) LEMON: The very public trials of Michael Jackson eventually took their toll. There is not a single thing or person in popular culture that is worth not protecting and believing our children. transcript. The interview with Jackson took place at his huge Neverland Ranch, complete with its own amusement park and zoo. While never forgetting any of the sexual details that happened between us, but having no understanding that it was abusehaving no concept in my mind that anything about Michael could ever badeverything that Michael did was right to me for so many years." JACKSON: I ask all of you to wait and hear the truth before you label or condemn me. He wasn't touring. The interview went on to become the most watched in television history, thanks in part to the Thriller star's unusual openness, which saw him discuss everything from his relationship with his father to his skin condition, vitiligo. According to Winfrey, the conversation was unscripted and uncensored. So Jackson was almost doomed to implode somewhat anyway. CRAIG HARVEY, CORONER'S SPOKESMAN: We know he was taking some prescription medications. LEMON: It was a triumph for Jackson as a musician and as a humanitarian. And his brothers were on stage with him. Beginning at a place called Motown------ UNIDENTIFIED MALE: There will be charges filed against Mr. Jackson, multiple counts. The special featured an interview between musician Michael Jackson and Oprah Winfrey, filmed at his Neverland Ranch in California. Eight minutes into the show, Oprah posed the question that would allow her to get to the meatier questions. When Oprah broached the subject, Michael wouldn't get into specifics but said he'd had less plastic surgery than people thought. LEMON: Jackson, in his last interview with "Ebony." LEMON: Family members came to Jackson's defense. MESEREAU: I think this trial and this entire case took a terrible toll on him emotionally and physically. Someone created a piano. And I know that it tore him to pieces. Oprah's interview with Michael is one of the most-watched TV events in history, with 90 million people tuning in to watch and more than 7.8million catching up on the interview on YouTube since . WINFREY: He did? However, Jackson's teenage years were awkward. And it was just kind of disgusting and silly. None of those episodes, she goes on to say, illustrated that fact the way Reed's film did. And I'd see all the children playing, and they'd be rooting and making noise, and I would cry. It was the kind of attention and screams he was accustomed to. In 25 years of the Oprah Show, I taped 217 episodes on sexual abuse. Jackson told Oprah he suffered from a rare skin disease. Jackson's personal physician, Conrad Murray, who's believed to have been with the singer when he died, has hired an attorney. Several items were taken away. Similarly, Safechuck recalls meeting Jackson while filming a Pepsi commercial; they developed a similar working relationship that morphed into sleepovers at the ranch. There would be no other form, honestly. In 2002, he incited world-wide outrage when he dangled his newborn son, Prince Michael II, from the balcony of a Berlin hotel. LEMON: Jackson and his brothers would become preteen idols, appearing in commercials and on magazine covers. CASTRO: He just wanted to give the world the impression he was like this mysterious, kind of enigmatic figure. Michael Jackson, left, will be played in the film by his nephew Jaafar Jackson, right. He hadn't shaved that morning. powerspyin1 We may earn commission from the links on this page. TARABORELLI: Michael began to sort of surround himself with young boys, and much to, I remember, the chagrin of people who were working for him.

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